People email me questions fairly reguarly. If I am in a good mood, I actually read the emails. Once in a while, I actually respond. On rare occasions, I actually try to answer the questions. The following is one actual interchange between me and an adoring fan... I took out all of the embarrassing stuff.
The question
John,
A
recent question came up for which I didn't
have an answer. I immediately thought of you so here goes. Do you have
any experience with reading florescent colors? I’m not really sure what
types of devices might be out there (if any) for reading those really
wild colors used in some printing and certainly more and more in
fabrics.
I’m not sure how a profile would even be put together because the standard tools (100% maximum colors) don’t seem to apply.
Do you know of any devices out there targeted toward florescent colors?
Thanks,
Mike
The response
Dear Mike,
This is a very difficult question. Well... the question is easy, but the answer is hard!
I have three different answers:
1. Scientific answer
The
characterization of a fluorescent color is not a one-dimensional
spectrum, but a two-dimensional one. You illuminate the same with a
"monochromator", illuminating it at one wavelength at a time. For each
wavelength in, you measure a full spectrum out. This gives you what is
called a Donaldson matrix. From this you can predict the CIELAB value
for any type of illumination possible.
You
pretty much have to build your own spectro if you want to do this. I am
sure you could do a decent job of $50K if you had a metrologist to help
you. NIST has one and Avian has one. The equipment pretty much needs a
technician in a lab to run it, it takes tens of minutes to make a
measurement, and you probably have to write special software to
interpret the results.
Clearly this is not a good production solution!!
2. Industry answer to a narrower problem
The
print industry has faced a similar problem, but limited to one
fluorescent pigment. Paper manufacturers currently add stilbene to
virtually all paper. It's a cheap way to make paper that is whiter than
white, or even just not dingy. Stilbene absorbs UV light and re-emits it
in the blue region so as to undo the natural yellow or brown color of
paper.
The
standards groups huddled together and came out with a solution that is
to standardize the UV content in viewing booths and in spectros.
Coincidentally, I recently blogged on that topic.
This handles one fluorescent whitener. It was not intended for DayGlo orange or neon green.
3. Perhaps a practical solution
The
color of a fluorescent sample will vary depending on the spectrum that
it is illuminated with. It will look different under daylight versus
incandescent lighting. But, so long as you restrict yourself to one
illumination spectrum, there might not be a problem. If the printer and
print buyer can agree that they will visually evaluate under a specific
illumination and that they will measure with an instrument that has that same
illumination, then everything should work.
[Note:
Instruments have settings for different illuminants, such as D50, A,
F11... This does not change the illumination, just the calculation
afterwards. I blogged about that recently, too.]
The
tough part (you would think) would be to find a viewing booth that uses
the same illumination as a spectro. But actually, that's not so hard
because of #2. Theoretically, you should be able to use a relatively new
viewing booth (one that complies with the M1 condition in ISO
3664:2009), and a relatively new spectro (one which also complies with
the M1 condition, but in ISO 13655:2009). All the stuff with then
provide D50 illumination.
In
practice, this may not be as easy as it sounds. One issue is that the
instruments and viewing booths may simulate D50 in such a way as to have
the correct numbers on paper with FWAs - on stilbene - but with somewhat different
spectra.
I would
suggest sticking just to one make and model of spectro, and one make and
model of viewing booth. Unfortunately, I can't tell you which viewing
booth and spectro will agree with each other. The vendors don't readily
share this information.
I
think at the very least, the practical solution might be to do away
with any visual matching, and rely completely on measurement. You would
measure a color with one of the M1 instruments (XRite eXact, Konica
Minolta FD-7, Techkon SpectroDens, or Barbieri SpectroPad) and set that
as the standard numbers and instrument.
The
other part of you question has to do with profiling... That's a big
"yikes"! I am going to guess that almost all the fluorescent colors are
well outside the gamut of all proofing devices, so, what good does it
do to proof it?!? The best you could possibly do is use a softproof, and
adjust something or other. I think you would scale the spectra of the
whole profile to make sure that there are no points where the spectra
goes above 100%.
John
Addendum
After I answered this email, I contacted DayGlo to see what they do for quality control. Here is what they said:
Visual light source is Daylight North Illumination (D65).
We measure the Color with a X-Rite Color i5 colorimeter.
We record the L*, a*, b*, DEcmc and De* for each color.
The measurements are done on the primary color test.
These can be either drawdowns or prints depending on the product.
So... they chose the practical solution.
I got a comment from my buddy Eric and JUST Normlicht, who makes viewing booths:
ReplyDeleteHey John,
So I was just reading your latest blog post on measuring fluorescent inks and I thought I’d let you know that the Barbieri SpectroPad (http://www.barbierielectronic.com/en/products/spectrophotometers/spectropad/91-338.html) uses the exact same illuminant as the JUST LED Technology based viewing booths (http://www.justnormlicht.com/just-led-technology.html). We supply the LED light source to Barbieri that they build into the SpectroPad. It actually even says “Illumination by JUST Normlicht” on the device itself. I just thought you should know since you specifically mentioned that you couldn’t tell which viewing booth and spectro would agree with each other.
Best Regards,
Eric Dalton
Vice President
JUST Normlicht, Inc.